Tories propose tighter pardon rules
'It doesn't erase what they've done'
By a large margin, it's our country's poor people that end up on the wrong end of the legal system.
So Conservatives will use an evil example here and there to outrage their base, but the reality is that, at the end of the day, the people who will suffer as always from these "well intentioned" laws will be poor people. Victims will go on being victims and all of this banter will not reduce crime one iota. This is just more cruel and unusual punishment. More of the same from the Harper conservatives.
By the way folks: crime rates have been falling in Canada for at least a decade. When are we going to recognize that our system works relatively well as it is? Shouldn't we be doing more of the successful Liberal policies that have brought us here?
Most will tell you the urge never leaves....they rely on external controls and curtailing exposure to risk factors and triggers. So, no, sex offenders cannot really change at a base levels.
We are more likely to have a safe society if we can find ways to integrate convicts. It may be a popular political move to incite anger against criminals, but if we really want to address the problem we need to look at root causes.
That sums it up right there... no evidence... no pragmatic or practical reasons... nothing except "We were offended"?
Laws are not some toy! They are not supposed to be about us FEELING better. We're not supposed to just rewrite laws because we are "offended" for crying out loud! What a WASTE of time! Not to mention how freaking dangerous!
What happens next when something else... like veils... like porn.. .like opposition to conservative opinion *offends* us. Do we outlaw those too? Laws cannot be a matter of taste! You must have some REAL reason to make them or to change them. Hurt feelings are not enough.
This is crazy! When we have so much else to do. When the RCMP just admitted they don't have the manpower... not even half the manpower... to even *start* to go after crooks who have hurt thousands of people through fraud. Here we are here... wasting time trying to RE-PUNISH a tiny handful of people we ALREADY caught and who have ALREADY been convicted and have ALREADY served their ENTIRE SENTENCE!
What the heck are we doing?!?!?!
1. A pardon does not erase the fact that a person was convicted of an offence
2. A pardon does not guarantee entry or visa privileges to another country.
3. A sentence may have included a driving or firearms prohibition order. A pardon will not cancel these prohibition orders
4. The CRA lists certain sexual offences. If a person was pardoned for such offences, his/her record will be kept separate and apart, but his/her name will be flagged in the CPIC computer system
4 being the most important, even if a sex offender applies for a job to work with children, the record is still available to the employer and comes up in a regular search process... If the sex offenders applies for a warehouse job then it does not as he won't be working with kids..
This legislation is next to meaningless. It will protect nobody who isn't already protected.
A pardon does not, and never did, wipe out a criminal record. For certain offences (i.e. sexual ones) the record is still available for certain kinds of searches.
All this will do is to make it more difficult for an offender to find a meaningful job in an area where their past is irrelevant.
More smoke & mirrors from the the cons for the sole purpose of stirring up emotions.
I was a troublemaker when I was younger and managed to rack up dozens of offenses (all property offenses, yet mostly tried as indictable offenses) over a period of about 10 years. Now, more than 20 years after the fact, and after having changed my life and attitude around (married, had children, bought a home, obtained my GED, etc.) I recently applied for and received a pardon. Under the proposed changes however, it sounds like this wouldn't have happened.
Should people continue to pay the price for foolish mistakes made as teenagers/young adults for the rest of their lives, even AFTER already serving sentences for those offenses??? As is already the case, these records are NOT expunged when a "pardon" is granted...they are only held separately from the accessible records through CPIC and similar searches. If another offense is committed, these records are immediately reintroduced into the system AND considered at trial as though a pardon had never been granted.
Let's eliminate the vigilante mob mentality and force the parole board to look at individual cases more closely, rather than bringing in blanket legislation making it harder for even truly changed individuals to erase a part of their history they wish to step away from to make a better life not only for themselves but in many cases for others such as their spouse and children. I'm NOT ashamed of my past, but it's nice to know that I DON'T have to explain it to every employer who asks!!!"